In the news again - Apple should buy DIS

Parks, resorts, dining, attractions, vacations

Rudeney
The article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/innovations/wp/2014/06/25/apple-buying-disney-a-consultant-explains-why-he-thinks-a-deal-is-frighteningly-obvious/

This has been discussed for many years now, but there seems to be a new spark
of stories and editorials about it.  It makes me think there may be something
going on now.  Personally, I think this might be a good move for shareholders,
but I wold hate it.  I am not an Apple fan at all.


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Patty
I posted that link to an Apple newsgroup yesterday to point out a fun
typo: the article refers to Apple being "the world's largest technology
company by market capitulation." :-)



I don't know what you fear will happen if Apple were to buy Disney.
You may want to avoid the Disney parks now, as they already use a
lot of Apple products.


Patty
                                            
Rudeney
I find that Apple sells very overpriced but poorly made products that have
built-in obsolescence.  Their focus is on sales, with customer service just a
facade designed to draw people into The Apple Store to buy more products.  My
company provides phones to most employees, and most choose iPhones, so we have
about 8 of them we deal with.  All have been replaced multiple times due to
malfunction (not abuse).  I had one guy at The Apple Store tell me that I just
needed to "press the lock button harder because it often sticks".  So I
pressed so hard, I cracked the screen - with my bare hands!  I've taken
iPhones apart to fix them and I see how poorly they are made.  They use cheap
"bubble buttons" like I used to fix for my younger brother on his Atari video
game controllers from the '70s.  Even if the rest of the phone (or iPod) is
working, the battery (like any phone) is only good for about a year, and it's
not user-replaceable.

From seeing their marketing, one would think that Apple products would be made
from the highest-grade, latest-technology parts.  It seems to me that they are
made to last "maybe a year" so that customers will be ready to upgrade to the
next version.  This "forced upgrade" strategy is what I do not like.  I bought
an iPad 1 four years ago as an early adopter and it is now almost useless
since Apple won't port anything after iOS5 to it.  And we know it can be done
because hackers do it all the time with "jailbroken" iPads.

So my dislike for Apple products and marketing strategies is what bothers me
about a potential DIS merger.  Even though I complain about some "cheap"
things DIS does, I believe that overall they put product quality and guest
experience ahead of all else.  They do charge and profit handsomely, but I
think (except for WDW food) you get what you pay for and even then some.  I am
afraid that Apple will turn the Disney parks customer experience into what you
get at The Apple Store.  There will be more cheap Chinese crap than ever, and
everything will be build to the lowest possible standards to last a year or
two.  I just don't believe Apple's business philosophy and Disney's mesh well
at all.


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John
My take is somewhat in between yours and Patty's. I think Apple used to 
put out a 1st rate product. I've a 160GB iPod classic that is 7 years 
old and still going strong. (Shsssh don't tell anyone.) I suspect 
Patty's Macs are a similar breed. But what I see now is shoddy materials 
and cost cutting. They live on their reputation. Sure they bring out 
some NEW Captain Billy's Whiz Bang every year of so but it's all flash. 
Everyone goes ooh, aah but in terms of products that last? That ship has 
sailed. JMO

John Mc.
                                            
Lisa
Interesting.   I was watching World Cup this morning and noticed the 
Microsoft ads. They are ALL about what you can do with the tablet, etc. 
    Apple ads are all about what you get when you use one.   Movies, 
videos,   Facetime with friends far away.    Right brain vs left.

I am in the apple corner now and will be for a long time.


Oh and I don't go to the Apple Store. Here in Atlanta area they are 
CRAZY!!   We use a small authorized business that has wonderful customer 
service in a nice quiet atmosphere with mostly ex-Apple employees..


Lisa

Lisa
                                            
Patty
That's weird. I have running Macs and other products that are decades 
old, and judging from postings on the Mac groups (and formal ROI research),
that isn't uncommon. I finally stopped using a first-gen iPhone (which I 
wasn't using as a phone) and bought an iPod touch, but the iPhone was still 
working fine. I think part of the reason people are so loyal to Apple is
because their products are so robust.



Well, if it ever happens, we'll find out, but I'm not worried about
either eventuality.


Patty
                                            
Rudeney
I don't know much about Macs, but I would imagine they are at least as
reliable as the typical desktop or laptop PC.  Solid state electronics really
don't fail.  Hard drives are probably the most likely point of failure.

As for brand reliability, I was thinking less about Macs and more about
Apple's iPhone, iPod and iPad devices.  These are what seem to have the most
"built-in obsolescence" through abandonment of O/S support and poor
construction that causes early failure.  In our personal ownership, Katie has
tossed about 5 iPhones, and two iPods due to manufacturer's defects.  Jan has
also tosses two defective iPods.  At work, among 8 iPhones, we've had 16
replacements due to defects, and another 6 due to "damage".  But some of those
damage incidents should not have totally broken the phones.  On one, an
employee simply placed his phone on his desk a little bit more firmly that one
should and it cracked the screen - and it was in a case with a screen
protector, and the screen was face-up.

Ironically, the most reliable Apple portable device we've had is my old 60gb
iPod Video that stays in the glove compartment of my car.  It's subjected to
extreme temps and vibrations, and even with a mechanical hard drive, it mostly
keeps going.  The screen is shot and the battery is dead, and I have to reset
it one every other week, but it's my best option for personalized in-car
music.  I could use BT streaming, but I want controls on the radio.  I could
also use a memory card or stick, but don't get easy playlist setup.  So, the
iPod it is.




My biggest fear is that the Apple Store model will come to Disney customer
service.  And to me, that is the worst customer service model ever.  I still
don't understand why people think this is good.  IME, it's difficult to get an
appointment, and they are always very late for servicing their appointments,
and the store is crowded, noisy and disorganized.  I believe it's just a
marketing ploy to get you to spend time in the store to buy stuff.  In a way,
it is like Disney's "gift shop attraction exit", but in reverse.  At least
with the gift shops, you can hurry out them.  With the Apple Store, you have
to stand there for an hour in the shop before getting what you came for.



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slawter
My opinion is that if anyone would buy the other it would be Disney 
buying apple, strictly based on the width of each's market. Of course, 
if this were to happen, Apple would buy Disney "on paper" because of the 
more favorable tax situation (this happens a lot).

But I doubt it will happen. And I agree with Rudeney with how closed 
Apple is to the outside world. I'm not saying they should open up every 
bit of HW and SW to the world but being totally closed across the board 
is, in my opinion, a bad thing.

-Sid
                                            
Rudeney
As I understand the financials, Apple currently has the cash reserves to buy
DIS, but they are all in oversees tax-sheltered accounts.  Bringing that money
back here to purchase DIS would cost them a lot, but they could still do it.
DIS does not have the cash to make a reasonable bid for Apple.




I find it s ironic that the Apple used the "1984" styled commercial to launch
the Mac, when it is in fact one of the most closed and "Big Brotherish"
companies out there.  That is one thing I prefer about the Android phone O/S.
 I can pretty much customize anything i want with an app.  From custom contact
lists to dialers and even crowd-sourced spam call filtering, I can do it.
Apple does not allow those things to be customized on iOS because "it might be
bad for you".  Shouldn't they let owners make that decision for themselves?



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